So maybe I'm "concerned" but I'm not a "concern troll".
I think that the stifling of dissent is actually far less than it has been as of late. I'm often frustrated that we don't see more from the people who have problems. Move things further along into WHY he's saying what he is saying and the overall strategy.
There are far worse enemies of progressive ideology than Obama, and many of them have too much power. I seriously think Obama was pushed into a position he really tried hard for a long time to justify. It's never been difficult for him to spin something he believes. Never difficult at all. But with FISA, it seemed like it took way too long for him to issue such a short statement.
I dunno. Bitching about his policies is all well and good, and probably 100% necessary. But perhaps people should try to hold themselves to a standard of making sure to criticize McCain and the Republicans more often than Obama.
But perhaps people should try to hold themselves to a standard of making sure to criticize McCain and the Republicans more often than Obama.
unless we are branching out from mydd, here that would be like preaching to the choir.
I do criticize McCain & republicans outside in the RW, but here? Who is going to argue with me? I see what you are stating, but the majority of us are going to vote for Obama.
Mydd should be a place where we can openly discuss stuff without being called trolls.
Fair enough!
> All I could think of when I read that was "I've got soul but I'm not a soldier"
I've gotta pee, but I'm not a peon!
I do agree, there are certain people here who NEVER say one bad word about McCain?
They are simply here to take out their bile on Obama, and to keep fighting the primary war.
I'm NOT talking about Canadian Girl, or Siricki, or Cole or Linfar....
But, you know who they are, They ONLY post on the anti-obama diaries. They only write diaries praising the Clintons, and almost always in those HAVE to give a shot at Obama.
Look at the Rec list. Some of those authors DO NOTHING BUT carry the Clinton torch, and have nothing but scorn for Obama.
I get how much of a struggle it is for the former Clinton folks, but there are folks who are just here to work against the common good.
I would take it a step further and add that we have people on here who have a great deal of contempt for Obama and don't trust him one iota, but they still give credit when credit is due and are still open to discussing things. And are probably going to vote for him in the fall, even though they still hate his guts. Catfish2 and SevenStrings leap immediately to mind. They get crap ALL the time, but they will talk to you and listen if you return the favor. Aliveandkicking would be in this category if I didn't grow more convinced daily that he's a troll (albeit a nice one to talk to).
But let's be fair, there's Obama supporters that do the same thing. Some that will talk to anyone, some that are abrasive but still insightful, some that don't ever say anything nice. Less of the latter on the Obama camp than in the Clinton camp, though. Largely due to how the election turned out.
Less of the latter on the Obama camp than in the Clinton camp, though. Largely due to how the election turned out.
you'd think so right? i wish i could agree. as much as people bash mydd and the trolls here - there are people that continually bash HRC and people that they perceive as her supporters. maybe you're less open to it which is why you notice it less. but it really is astounding.
what bothers me more than this however - is that most of the good 'eggs' do not stand up to this filth. some do - like you, kysen, spaceman, SG, Johnny, brit - but most don't which is why is perpetuates this idea that there is a double standard in place.
I would like to see more people stand up for that, too. You guys have been very good about it, and I try to stand up for you and Clinton whenever I can think of something to say because of that. I keep worrying that eventually some moron will hit the breaking point and send you all out of here.
Generally speaking, though, I'm much more likely to see a hateful Obama comment than a hateful Clinton one. I'll have to just look closer, I guess.
Seriously, though, everybody. Kick the ass of any Clinton-bashers. The only Democrat we make fun of here is Joe Lieberman. Thank you.
